Rate Sapphire and Steel's six TV adventures.

Re: Rate Sapphire and Steel's six TV adventures.

Postby Dorney on Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:11 pm

Tone wrote:Oh, sorry, I thought he was suggesting it was rights issues that caused it. So the TP adventures sold well? Okay, well, that's good to hear, as I say I am a big fan of the series and so I'm glad to hear it was popular. Well, then, that makes it even more of a pity that it's been discontinued for whatever reason.

Still, if sales were good then all involved can at least take some solace from the fact that what they produced was well-recieved. I'd imagine it'd be frustrating, though, to have a popular product and yet not be able to continue making it.

Are the Sapphire and Steel audios going to be continuing? I've only heard one of them, so far, but I thought it was really quite good.

I took Imipak to mean rights issues related to lack of sales - i.e: Freemantle being disappointed with the amount being sold and taking the licence away as a result. And that wasn't the case. Freemantle did take the licence away, just not for those reasons.

It strikes me that if that did happen with audios of any series (be it anything in the BF stable, Who, S&S etc, or be it outside stuff like the Blake's 7 audios), it wouldn't be a permanent thing - because what's the point in taking the license back if you're not then going to sell it to someone else? You'd basically be exchanging a small amount of income for no income at all if you didn't.

Lack of sales is only likely to be a problem to BF themselves, if they can't justify the costs of making the audios. It's what happened to the 2000AD range, apparently, and it nearly happened to S&S (though thankfully it didn't!).

(Though I think it's a mistake to equate lesser sales with lesser quality anyway. If the audios don't sell as well as the DVDs, say, that shouldn't be taken to mean that the stories aren't 'strong enough' to compete, as Imipak suggested. It's simply that you're dealing with a niche market within a niche market. Obviously it won't sell as well. I imagine the Who audio Spare Parts hasn't sold as many copies as the DVD of Time Flight, but it would be difficult to state that this is because Spare Parts isn't strong enough a production to compete with it. In deed, as someone who liked the TP audios, I think they're easily stronger than the original TV show by a massive degree.)

Beyond series 3 of the audios I have no idea whether S&S will continue - I'm not in that loop. But it can't help to buy a few. I believe the second story of the new series is supposed to be excellent... ;)
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Re: Rate Sapphire and Steel's six TV adventures.

Postby Tone on Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:30 am

Interesting! Yes, I recently rewatched my TP DVDs and I can easily believe the audios are superior...I'd only hear BF Audio trailers for the TP stuff and yet it occured to me that it was probably much better. When I rewatched recently, I watched with a more objective eye than usual, and free from the nostalgic attitude which makes us forgive a lot, I suddenly realised that Roger Price's reduction of the format to two-parters later on was quite right as the earlier 4 and 5 parters were dreadfully padded and often padded with quite bad stuff (the "comedy" traffic warden in The Doomsday Men) and I was amazed that The Blue and the Green, which I always held in high regard, was one of the most sloppy and inept of the lot!

The second Sapphire and Steel audio of season 3 you say? Sounds like a fun/interesting premise for a story. I'm interested in knowing more about the setting...a deserted pier? Does a pier include interiors? I guess you can have things on a pier like a retaurant or something...

Oddly enough, when I went to the beachfront last year, there was a pier with a restuarant and also a merry-go-round and a playground and there was no one around and just the fact that it was so empty, I said to my wife at the time, "this place reminds me of Sapphire and Steel for some reason!"

I notice they seem to have recast Sapphire and Steel again. Is that Blair from Big Brother? The Aussie version? An Aussie as Steel?
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Re: Rate Sapphire and Steel's six TV adventures.

Postby Anorak on Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:55 pm

Only just seen that... I think it's a gimmick, surely?
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Re: Rate Sapphire and Steel's six TV adventures.

Postby Tone on Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:52 am

You mean a publicity gimmick? Maybe the plot description about Sapphire and Steel are gone/Sapphire and Steel are here, means they're actually replaced in the story by reality TV stars in some way?

It certainly got my attention, I'll say that!
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Re: Rate Sapphire and Steel's six TV adventures.

Postby em_dee on Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:57 am

I heard a rumour that - get this - the license was revoked because .... a new TV series might be in the offing. If nothing else, Nu Who has compelled a lot of TV execs to think the unthinkable. How long now before Manimal makes a comeback ?
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